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		<title>By: Mike MacGregor</title>
		<link>http://www.fftoday.com/blog/2010/10/04/early-high-stakes-league-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-496</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike MacGregor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 13:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey again Tim. Thanks for posting back about the Ray Rice situation. Whatever actually transpired - gaffe with the waiver system or the owner selected the wrong player to drop - good to know the NFFC was on top of it and tried to resolve it as best they could.

I do find the waiver system a little confusing myself. Interesting that you found the FFOC system easier (and different) when both contests were/are run by the same company, and presumably the same software.

Here are some tips on using the current waiver system:

- the first bid they look at in each of your bid groups is the player with the highest dollar bid, so I always try to order each bid group from highest dollar to lowest

- in most cases I try to just put one player drop per bid group, so if you have a list of say, five players, and want to get two of them, make two bid groups with the same player adds and a different player to drop in each

- I think - don&#039;t quote me on this - you can prioritize the bid groups, so if I&#039;d actually prefer to bid just $5 on Rashad Jennings as my first priority (drop Brandon LaFell) and bid $10 on Deji Karim as my second priority (drop Brandon LaFell), then I would have to put these in two separate bid groups with the Jennings one ranked higher

I hope that helps. Thanks for the kind words about FF Today!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey again Tim. Thanks for posting back about the Ray Rice situation. Whatever actually transpired &#8211; gaffe with the waiver system or the owner selected the wrong player to drop &#8211; good to know the NFFC was on top of it and tried to resolve it as best they could.</p>
<p>I do find the waiver system a little confusing myself. Interesting that you found the FFOC system easier (and different) when both contests were/are run by the same company, and presumably the same software.</p>
<p>Here are some tips on using the current waiver system:</p>
<p>- the first bid they look at in each of your bid groups is the player with the highest dollar bid, so I always try to order each bid group from highest dollar to lowest</p>
<p>- in most cases I try to just put one player drop per bid group, so if you have a list of say, five players, and want to get two of them, make two bid groups with the same player adds and a different player to drop in each</p>
<p>- I think &#8211; don&#8217;t quote me on this &#8211; you can prioritize the bid groups, so if I&#8217;d actually prefer to bid just $5 on Rashad Jennings as my first priority (drop Brandon LaFell) and bid $10 on Deji Karim as my second priority (drop Brandon LaFell), then I would have to put these in two separate bid groups with the Jennings one ranked higher</p>
<p>I hope that helps. Thanks for the kind words about FF Today!</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Holloran</title>
		<link>http://www.fftoday.com/blog/2010/10/04/early-high-stakes-league-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-493</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Holloran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 10:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Mike. First if John the owner from above post see&#039;s my post. I apologize having not known til now what happened regarding Ray Rice being dropped.  ANYWAY Mike an UPDATE: I think it&#039;s important to post considering you are in NFFC too. John eventually posted on site that he DID NOT DROP RAY RICE. He dropped another player and for some reason the NFFC waiver wire erroneously dropped Ray Rice from his team. John said the waiver drop list would show this. It was too late last week get issue resolved so he lost Rice for week 5. Rice of course had big game. However NFFC did put Ray Rice back on his team going forward. So I guess the site did screwup as John the owner said it did. Taking John at his word and fact NFFC gave him back Rice. That&#039;s a huge site mistake. Now maybe John may have accidentally dropped Rice and mistake&#039;s are made. Site gave him back Rice and John paid price losing Rice for week 5. But that&#039;s not what John say&#039;s happened. I have seen what I believe are mistake&#039;ss by waiver wire. In fact 2 week&#039;s ago a message from site said due to error. Entire waiver wire was rerun by site.

Mike I had issue&#039;s trying figure that waiver wire out. I get it now that it&#039;s run by order list of worst team on bids. That if you get a player from your 1st preference. Even if you outbid for a 2nd preferential player. If that player is on the first bidder&#039;s preferential list. That player goes to that bidder. I played in FFOC last 2 year&#039;s. For all it&#039;s complaint&#039;s. I did like their FA system which was also run by fanball. Seem&#039;s to me if I outbid everyone for a player I should get that player regardless of where player is on preference list. In fact last night I bid on several player&#039;s and lost almost every bid. But I did get one player listed on preferential list. However the last player which was seventh on my list was not bid for by anyone. Yet I did not get that player. He was marginal but I did list dropping another player so I should have gotten him. I wondered if the waiver wire list is only run soo many time&#039;s. ANYWAY I am not doing well and my first year in satellite league for $125. I like the NFFC game. I was considering playing in higher pay NFFC league. As this season was a &quot;GET FEEL for NFFC season.&quot; But with higher stake&#039;s. My concern about waiver wire run on NFFC put&#039;s that in doubt. If you know guys run NFFC Mike. You might wanna pass off these concern&#039;s. 

My original concern&#039;s were legit and other&#039;s posted similar concern&#039;s. In NFFC you can e-mail owner&#039;s individually. So theortically say in week 11 owner drops Ray Rice. A team that will likely be in playoff&#039;s has most FA money available. These 2 owner&#039;s collude together and the playoff owner outbid&#039;s everyone for Ray Rice using all his FA money committing collusion. So updateed the story and John now has ay Rice back with isssue settled. 

BTW Mike I realize NFL been erratic this year. But I have been disappointed with Footballguys info this year since it&#039;s a pay site. I question whether they have lost focus on providing fantasy info and became too distracted with money side of site. Running fantasy game&#039;s etc... fotballguys useed be the bet fantasy info site online. I think FFTODAY and fantasy toolbox areboth great mostly free site&#039;s. Thanks for letting me comment.------------------------------------------------Tim]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mike. First if John the owner from above post see&#8217;s my post. I apologize having not known til now what happened regarding Ray Rice being dropped.  ANYWAY Mike an UPDATE: I think it&#8217;s important to post considering you are in NFFC too. John eventually posted on site that he DID NOT DROP RAY RICE. He dropped another player and for some reason the NFFC waiver wire erroneously dropped Ray Rice from his team. John said the waiver drop list would show this. It was too late last week get issue resolved so he lost Rice for week 5. Rice of course had big game. However NFFC did put Ray Rice back on his team going forward. So I guess the site did screwup as John the owner said it did. Taking John at his word and fact NFFC gave him back Rice. That&#8217;s a huge site mistake. Now maybe John may have accidentally dropped Rice and mistake&#8217;s are made. Site gave him back Rice and John paid price losing Rice for week 5. But that&#8217;s not what John say&#8217;s happened. I have seen what I believe are mistake&#8217;ss by waiver wire. In fact 2 week&#8217;s ago a message from site said due to error. Entire waiver wire was rerun by site.</p>
<p>Mike I had issue&#8217;s trying figure that waiver wire out. I get it now that it&#8217;s run by order list of worst team on bids. That if you get a player from your 1st preference. Even if you outbid for a 2nd preferential player. If that player is on the first bidder&#8217;s preferential list. That player goes to that bidder. I played in FFOC last 2 year&#8217;s. For all it&#8217;s complaint&#8217;s. I did like their FA system which was also run by fanball. Seem&#8217;s to me if I outbid everyone for a player I should get that player regardless of where player is on preference list. In fact last night I bid on several player&#8217;s and lost almost every bid. But I did get one player listed on preferential list. However the last player which was seventh on my list was not bid for by anyone. Yet I did not get that player. He was marginal but I did list dropping another player so I should have gotten him. I wondered if the waiver wire list is only run soo many time&#8217;s. ANYWAY I am not doing well and my first year in satellite league for $125. I like the NFFC game. I was considering playing in higher pay NFFC league. As this season was a &#8220;GET FEEL for NFFC season.&#8221; But with higher stake&#8217;s. My concern about waiver wire run on NFFC put&#8217;s that in doubt. If you know guys run NFFC Mike. You might wanna pass off these concern&#8217;s. </p>
<p>My original concern&#8217;s were legit and other&#8217;s posted similar concern&#8217;s. In NFFC you can e-mail owner&#8217;s individually. So theortically say in week 11 owner drops Ray Rice. A team that will likely be in playoff&#8217;s has most FA money available. These 2 owner&#8217;s collude together and the playoff owner outbid&#8217;s everyone for Ray Rice using all his FA money committing collusion. So updateed the story and John now has ay Rice back with isssue settled. </p>
<p>BTW Mike I realize NFL been erratic this year. But I have been disappointed with Footballguys info this year since it&#8217;s a pay site. I question whether they have lost focus on providing fantasy info and became too distracted with money side of site. Running fantasy game&#8217;s etc&#8230; fotballguys useed be the bet fantasy info site online. I think FFTODAY and fantasy toolbox areboth great mostly free site&#8217;s. Thanks for letting me comment.&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;Tim</p>
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		<title>By: Mike MacGregor</title>
		<link>http://www.fftoday.com/blog/2010/10/04/early-high-stakes-league-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-453</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike MacGregor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Tim. That is a DICK move. I never use that term but it is a perfect description for it. No reason he should be dropped and available as a free agent. If I were you I would contact Greg and Tom who run the NFFC and see what they say about it. Perhaps it should be reversed and the team that dropped him get taken over by management. Tough situation for them, but I&#039;m sure you aren&#039;t the only one who is frustrated with it, and it certainly falls into the category of highly questionable.

There is something to be said for the best-ball/draft masters format leagues. No starting lineup decisions, no waivers, just draft and go. Of course, it is easier to lose interest in this type of league if you fall out of it early, rather than fighting like you are doing to stay in the running.

I wish you the best of luck the rest of the way in your league, and I hope that issue gets resolved properly. Even if someone ends up with Rice, keep at it. Still no guarantee that team will walk to the league championship. Any given Sunday.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tim. That is a DICK move. I never use that term but it is a perfect description for it. No reason he should be dropped and available as a free agent. If I were you I would contact Greg and Tom who run the NFFC and see what they say about it. Perhaps it should be reversed and the team that dropped him get taken over by management. Tough situation for them, but I&#8217;m sure you aren&#8217;t the only one who is frustrated with it, and it certainly falls into the category of highly questionable.</p>
<p>There is something to be said for the best-ball/draft masters format leagues. No starting lineup decisions, no waivers, just draft and go. Of course, it is easier to lose interest in this type of league if you fall out of it early, rather than fighting like you are doing to stay in the running.</p>
<p>I wish you the best of luck the rest of the way in your league, and I hope that issue gets resolved properly. Even if someone ends up with Rice, keep at it. Still no guarantee that team will walk to the league championship. Any given Sunday.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Holloran</title>
		<link>http://www.fftoday.com/blog/2010/10/04/early-high-stakes-league-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-429</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Holloran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike I am playing in the $125 14 team satellite NFFC. I like the league but unfortunately struggling. Never had soo many injuries. It&#039;s the 19 team roster with waiver wire. Here&#039;s my issue. I have burnt up alot of FA money due to injuries. A guy who drafted Ray Rice at #4 pick DROPPED HIM Last week. He will be available this week on waiver wire. I do not have enough FA money get him. I know til this week Rice struggled but to drop the #4 pick??? To be honest I am pissed off because having been a commish in league thru work. Dropping Rice by this team was not an idiot move but a DICK move in my opinion. Maybe more sinister a collusion move. Farfetched but what if he made deal with team listed with most FA money. Whether it was that or just honest mistake dropping Rice. FACT is by dropping Rice the guy has compromised integrity of league. Having paid $125 it pisses me off. Course Rice scored 30 pts sunday and it was just a screwed up move. Yeah if I could get him might be singing different song. But guy&#039;s nickname is &quot;IF IT BLEEDS, KILL IT&quot; which make&#039;s me wonder what kinda goofy person this is? Anyway do you think I should write the NFFC about it? I think next year I will switch to the 14 team 27 roster league with no waiver wire and top 4 teams make playoff&#039;s by points scored.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike I am playing in the $125 14 team satellite NFFC. I like the league but unfortunately struggling. Never had soo many injuries. It&#8217;s the 19 team roster with waiver wire. Here&#8217;s my issue. I have burnt up alot of FA money due to injuries. A guy who drafted Ray Rice at #4 pick DROPPED HIM Last week. He will be available this week on waiver wire. I do not have enough FA money get him. I know til this week Rice struggled but to drop the #4 pick??? To be honest I am pissed off because having been a commish in league thru work. Dropping Rice by this team was not an idiot move but a DICK move in my opinion. Maybe more sinister a collusion move. Farfetched but what if he made deal with team listed with most FA money. Whether it was that or just honest mistake dropping Rice. FACT is by dropping Rice the guy has compromised integrity of league. Having paid $125 it pisses me off. Course Rice scored 30 pts sunday and it was just a screwed up move. Yeah if I could get him might be singing different song. But guy&#8217;s nickname is &#8220;IF IT BLEEDS, KILL IT&#8221; which make&#8217;s me wonder what kinda goofy person this is? Anyway do you think I should write the NFFC about it? I think next year I will switch to the 14 team 27 roster league with no waiver wire and top 4 teams make playoff&#8217;s by points scored.</p>
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